Wednesday, March 21, 2018

Why does the Alt-Right Hate Indians?


I have a troubled relationship with the alt-right.  I first become “enlightened” in terms of understanding how wrong mainstream politically-correct knowledge was when I first started reading about game and evolutionary psychology ten years ago.  I stumbled on the Roissy in DC blog at some point, then took in Richard Lynn, Philippe Rushton, and Charles Murray (author of The Bell Curve).  I gradually accepted “human biodiversity” - the idea that races are genetically different in various physical and mental traits and that many of the social ills in society are caused by average differences in IQ between racial groups.  Before this, I was left-leaning on most issues, though still a centrist.    

Even after my “dark enlightenment,” I was still a liberal and believed that we should view each other as individuals.  At the same time, it was quite satisfying to understand the problems of society and having it make sense on an intuitive level and in my everyday observations.  I remained incredulous that almost no one in my circles was even willing to hear me out and consider the evidence.  

This knowledge was frequently isolating, and in addition, I was always unnerved that the tests that showed a nearly insurmountable white-black IQ gap also showed Indians performing poorly.  What did this mean for me, as a very smart Indian, that my fellow co-ethnics performed so poorly on IQ tests even though I was a few standard deviations above the white mean?  I’ve been struggling with this issue ever since I came across the IQ test results.  African and Hispanic readers have often created strawmen saying “Well, I guess these average IQ results mean that I’m dumb and should be a janitor,” displaying a poor understanding of statistical distribution. 

On the other hand, I knew deep down that these test results were valid.  I remained skeptical of Indian development prospects (to the annoyance of other family members who were blind Indian nationalists that blamed everything on the British) and concerned about China’s rise, but I continued to fully embrace my American identity, confident that as long as the U.S. kept out the 'bad' Indians, we could be a model minority and live happily ever after. 

However, over the last few years it seems like white nationalism has really taken over the space of the internet that is skeptical of mainstream views on race.  Now, every single post that has a remote connection to India garners dozens of hateful comments towards Indians, accusing them of corruption, rape, dirtiness, poor game, stupidity, and so on.  At the same time, Indians were growing more prominent in American politics and were promoting hard left views harmful to society.  The few Republican-leaning Indians seemed to be all Neocons, focusing on tax cuts and Christian evangelical issues, while caving to the left on any issues of racial discord.  This also attracted the ire of the alt-right and white nationalists.

Following the election of Donald Trump and the rise of ethno-nationalist movements throughout the West and the continued rise of China, I realized something had to change.  India is going to fail as a nation and Indian-Americans will wear out their welcome if we remain beholden to leftist views and the victim mentality. 

One of my goals for this blog is to introduce the views of the alt-right to Indian people that ordinarily don’t view alt-right, human biodiversity (HBD), or paleoconservative websites.  As mainstream media views on a wide spectrum of issues have become increasingly detached from reality, the alt-right will become more prominent as an alternative perspective on the world.  We need to learn from the alt-right and think hard about what their views can teach us about India.  Unfortunately, there is a ton of anti-Indian sentiment on these websites and I want Indians to become aware of them, as I believe these alt-right views will become more and more mainstream as the moderate neoliberal consensus starts to break down. 

Once mainstream political correctness breaks down, Indians will be in a very vulnerable position.  Indians in America have relied on the benevolence of Americans and their willingness to accept Indians in and let them share in the wealth of the country.  India has also relied on the world order’s benevolence – a world order that viewed invasion and occupation as wrong and generally respected the sovereignty of weaker nation states.  During the Cold War, India could rely on the Soviets for some level of protection, and post Cold-War, the U.S. had no territorial designs on India and saw a like-minded democracy in India.  Pathetic Pakistan was India’s biggest threat.  Now, China looms large, Islam continues to spread, and ethnic nationalism is rising in the West and other locations where the Indian diaspora has spread.      

In order to figure out how Indians can prepare for the advent of white supremacy in Western Politics, it is important for us to be mindful of what the white supremacists say about Indians and reflect on whether it has any merit.  As I wrote before, I am concerned, because it appears that an anti-Indian perspective is so ingrained that there may not be room for reconciliation and Indians may have difficulties in the future as alt-right aligned views become increasingly prominent.  Alt-righters also seem convinced that whites are responsible for every major civilization advancement and that Indians played a negligible role.  They also downplay Chinese contributions and the scale of the threat they pose to the West.    

But I’m convinced there is hope for us getting along.  There are enough common interests between red pilled Indians and Whites that we can figure out a way to live together peacefully.  The sooner that Indians can understand the areas where the alt-right has valid arguments and realize that many of their concerns about Indians are fair, the sooner we can get on the right track in and avoiding conflict and improving our ability to thrive in the 21st century.        

Today, I’m going to post the latest Indian-related post from one of the most prominent alt-right sympathetic sites: the Unz Review.  It is regarding a disturbing trend that I mentioned above – the prominence of Indian politicians in left-wing activism.    

The Post is a bit too long to post in full, so I’m going to post in parts:

Five years ago, the hipster-Marxist magazine n+1 published a lengthy editorial, White Indians [Spring 2013] complaining that Indians—i.e. Asians from the subcontinent of India—were doing too well. They were making money, staying out of trouble, attending colleges, and generally integrating. Some of them—Bobby Jindal and Nikki Haley—were even becoming Republicans! The n+1 Editors were not pleased by any of this, lamenting that Indian success was being used as a rhetorical cudgel by American whites to demand better behavior of other non-whites. They called on Indians to stop being so “white” and instead model themselves after Kumar, the slacker Indian pothead from the stoner comedy Harold and Kumar Go to White Castle. Their conclusion was more nuanced than it seems and it may be coming true—and it points to the downside of a merit-based immigration policy.

This is definitely a fair point – Republicans often talk about Asian success as a way to criticize NAM (Non-Asian minorities).  This has been going on for awhile. 

While the character “Kumar” is nothing but a horny man-child, the actor who played him, “Kal Penn,” born “Kalpen Suresh Modi,” is a dedicated Leftist activist. He worked in the Obama Administration as Associate Director in the White House Office of Public Engagement for several years, worked on Obama’s 2012 re-election campaign and then work on the President’s Committee on the Arts and Humanities—until he resigned in August of 2017 over President Trump’s (now-vindicated) response to the Unite the Right rally i n Charlottesville, Virginia. [Kal Penn, more resign White House arts committee, By An Phung, CNN, August 18, 2017]
This career path is increasingly common for Indian immigrants in the Anglosphere. Like millions of other non-whites, and not a few white ethnomasochists, many have begun to adopt the increasingly hegemonic anti-white, anti-West, positions disseminated in our university system, and on cultural Marxist websites like Salon.

Yep – this is pretty accurate.  Social Justice Warrior (SJW) activism is increasingly common among Indian-Americans.  Not many shitlords unfortunately.

What makes Leftist Indians special is that they are both non-white and intelligent— “blacks with brains,” as they are sometimes brutally characterized. Remember that the pressure in Leftist institutions to place non-whites in powerful positions is immense. But the number of blacks and Hispanics with the cognitive abilities to run an organization, regularly write on and analyze American politics, or carry out competently the duties required of a civil servant, are few and far between.
Leftists may be evil, but they are not dumb. They are not really eager to let their non-profits and publications be run into the ground by a black empty suit in the name of diversity. But to keep from being condemned as racist by their own side, they can’t just stay white—especially since having self-loathing whites, women, Jews (who the Left generally sees as white), and homosexuals on staff is no longer enough to be granted the exalted designation of “diverse”.
High IQ, anti-white Indians are an excellent way out of this quandary.

Also accurate!  Indian-Americans are far more articulate and competent than their Latinos or black counterparts in the U.S.

While there is still much more field work that needs to be done to pin down Indian IQ, the research we do have suggests, while average Indian IQ is not high, that the upper castes are very bright. The uppermost caste, the Brahmins, are estimated to have an average score of around 110—putting them on the level of Ashkenazi Jews, and above east Asians and Europeans. If the caste one rung down, Kshatriyas, are one standard deviation below them, their average IQ would be 95. That would put them well ahead of blacks (85), and between Hispanics (90) and whites (100). However, there is plenty of reason to think the Kshatriyas average is higher than that.
If the top caste in Indian has an average of 110, and the bottom is slightly above 80, and there are three castes in between, and the difference between each caste is the same, then Kshatriyas would have an average above 100—that is to say, higher than average whites in the US.
Theories aside, what is indisputable is that the Indians arriving in America are from the upper castes, and if you translate the average Indian SAT score into IQ, you get an average score of 110.84. [IQs of Indians, by Ryan Faulk, The Alternative Hypothesis, April 15, 2016]. In short, Indian Americans are smart.

This blog is going to discuss Indian IQ in extreme depth, but for now we agree with the sentiment above.

I’ll soon post the rest of the piece, with my comments. 

27 comments:

  1. I think there's room for limited optimism. As you've gathered, "hi, we intend to be a hostile visible minority that hates you" is not a good look. With that said, I see lot of potential in nationalt-to-nationalist conversations between Americans and Indians in India. Before I take that idea any further, a question:

    Isn't India's BJP reasonably red pilled? If so, how does BJP's core conflict with India's version of The Cathedral ripple out to the Desi community abroad?

    Also, how is India preparing for the Diaspora War that I see coming with China? Because I see a classic 4th Generation War conflict that is waged mostly through expatriate communities who vie for influence and control across Africa and (collaterally) into the West. Is that even on anyone's radar?

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    1. Yeah...very good questions. Honestly, I'm still working on doing more research into BJP and RSS, etc and trying to figure out how they fit into the red pill world. From what I know, they spend too much time on victim mentality hating on Muslims and the British and not enough time worrying about India's low average IQ and the China threat.

      In terms of abroad, it's a super weird dynamic. The older Indian diaspora in the U.S. are more pro-BJP and tolerant of Trump, while the younger ones are usually hardcore SJW.

      On the diaspora war, that's a fascinating issue, but outside the Anglosphere, the Chinese diaspora combined with Chinese government economic diplomacy overall have far more economic power than the Indian diaspora. Another topic to explore more fully in the blog. Keep up the comments!

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    2. As an Indian living in India, I must say that the majority of the reason for this phenomenon is because of Indian WOMEN. The greatest story never told is that India outside of the villages and Muslim areas is NOT a patriarchy, but a matriarchy. It is FILLED with loud-mouthed entitled Indian women who have an opinion on everything, hate facts, and generally run society to the ground. Indian men in America are busy working their guts out trying to put food on the table, they don't have time for leftist nonsense and many of them are generally red pilled and keep to themselves. It's the Indian women that are the problem. Left wing white men find Indian women to be attractive, and hire Indian women to write disgusting leftist posts on all these media outlets 24/7 "representing the Indian community". They are only representing Indian women. Indian women hate white women because white women are everything they want to be, but aren't (look at the excessive skin bleaching and the OKCupid statistics). But if there's one group of people Indian women hate more than white women, it's Indian men. Hence they're on the radical feminist and extreme SJW and vocal about their hatred of traditionalism because any sign of a logical, independent Indian man free from their clutches is a threat to their hegemony.

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  2. I support BJP and I voted Trump, because he said he would ban muslims ; BJP is extremely anti-commies and anti-muslim ;

    BJP is also anti-xtian missionary ; Nikki Haley and Bobby Jindal are disliked as apostates ; The Republican Right hates Hindu Americans but loves them after they convert to Christianity

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  3. I would tentatively predict BJP would be less likely to deny IQ differences than Congress party, but since you've posted on many blog posts about Indian IQ would love to hear your thoughts on that. BJP may be against xtian missionaries in India, but they are ideologically closer to evangelicals in the West, no? Does BJP have a problem with Hindus abroad converting to Christianity?

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    1. BJP has a problem with any Dharmic ( Indian religionist ) converting to any Abrahamic religion , in any country in the world ;

      Swami Vivekananda - each hindu lost to abrahmic religions is one enemy more

      Most pro-BJP NRI favorite US politician is Tulsi Gabbard , not any of the Democratic Indians, and they detest Bobby Jindal and Nikki Haley as apostates

      As far as caste IQ, BJP is aware but will keep silent, because 75% of Indians are lower caste and get quota ; and it has compromised on quota to get a united hindu front vs muslims and christians

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    2. Tulsi Gabbard IS a Democrat.

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  4. BJP in North east India, has made local tactical alliances with Christians vs the muslim menace ; and will accept Xtians as long as they give up conversion activities

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  5. NRI parents tell their kids - never bring home a black or a muslim ; Kamala Harris is detested as half-black ;

    I have about 4 nieces married to white men and 1 nephew married to white woman ; My Tam-Brahm family accepts them as long as they are not hostile to Hinduism ; an Atheist / Agnostic white is welcome, an evangelical is unwelcome

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    1. Tam-Brahm family?? LOL!

      The amazing thing is how a bunch of ugly asuras brainwashed a bunch of white degenerates to marry them.

      Must be that your family is well versed in the art of black-magic?

      "never bring home a black or a muslim"
      Racists Indian n*s trying eagerly to pass themselves off as Aryan. Right? LOL!

      Which believing True Monotheist would marry batshit crazy pagan polytheists?

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    2. Come on dude please don't make me start deleting people's comments for trolling. Anyway, the whole Aryan thing may make a comeback though http://redpillindian.blogspot.com/2018/04/aryanism.html

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    3. Tamil Brahmins are not Asuras, but devas, many of them are lighter skinned than most North Indians. We are Tamil only in language, we are Brahmin in blood (ancestral North Indian), and are therefore superior to the vast majority of rapist street sh!tting North Indians. We're simply better than most other Indians. Tamil Brahmins are not the same species as the average Tamil thevaar or shudra.

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  6. Why are Indians so cucked? You don't even begin to try to challenge the views of Alt-Righters. Alt-Righters are literally sub-human, anime-watching, mouth-breathing retards that number less than 100,000 people. Their 'science' is garbage 'pseudo-science'.

    -Fenoopy

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    1. If you were actually in a position to denigrate the intelligence or education of others, you'd know grammar.

      First, people take the word "who" or "whom", never the word "that." So you mean to write "retards WHO number...."

      Second, we don't use "less than" to refer to a number of discrete objects or individuals. You should have written "WHO number FEWER THAN 100,000."

      And, like so many on the Left today, you fail to grasp the difference between "literally" and "figuratively." Human beings, whatever their viewpoints, are of course not "literally sub-human."

      Ignorant tool.

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  7. Well the alt-right is right about many important issues. We Indians can't start to challenge them on the issues that they are wrong about until we actually understand their perspective, which the mainstream media will lie about.

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    1. That is an excellent answer.

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    2. The alt right wants to exterminate everyone except whites and Northeast Asians. They are therefore the enemy of our existence. However, when it comes to IQ and eugenics, it is important for Indians to destroy affirmative action in India and restore Brahmins to their rightful place as masters over subhuman darkie low castes who have run India to the ground with the help of white liberal NGOs and "human rights" organizations.

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    3. This comment gets to the heart of the matter about the weird corner that HBD aware Indians find themselves in - hated by the alt-right that bestowed the HBD knowledge, but also hated by the Indian SJWs and caste activists dragging India down. This is why I started this blog and why we need a new movement not dragged down by the idiocy of Hindutva.

      One thing I believe is that we really need to get rid of our obsession with light skin. Even though South Indian Brahmins are lighter than the average South Indian, their skin would still be darker than many upper caste Northerners. However, south Indian dark skinned Brahmins are more intelligent, so we should not use skin color as a proxy for civilized behavior. After all, the average Afghan and Pakistani is lighter skinned than the average Indian!

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    4. Thanks brother, it's refreshing to find another Indian that thinks alike. Personally I couldn't give two f*cks about skin color as long as the person is native to the Indian subcontinent for at least the past 1000 years or so.
      Tired of the low IQ "reservation" politics, the anti-Brahmin and anti-high caste slogans of many people, and the self-appointed intellectual elite of India with their idiotic faux British accents and inane Marxist policies only designed fellate the Muzzies, Christians, and other non-Hindus and basically give India away to Western liberal interests. I don't care that much for Hinduism as a whole, but I want India to be a Hindu country overwhelmingly, not a Muzzie or a Christian one., which will inevitably lead to our racial extinction as there will be no historical-cultural continuity for the masses to draw on once a foreign religion becomes dominant over the native one. Atheism is a luxury for the rich and privileged (and those who have a high IQ) so as silly as Hindutva is, it might scare some Indians into staying away from the Middle Eastern desert religions.

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  8. The 'alt-right' is really a left-wing group. White Trashionalists comprise the bottom 20% of while men (and almost no women), and they just want intra-white socialism.

    'Alt-right' is really 'Paleo-left'. That is why so many White Trashionalists were fans of Bernie Sanders.

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  9. We don't want your people because like you said

    India is a shithole and you want to flee to white countries

    This mentality and selfishness already shows that you are the people we do not want.

    Whites are the opposite, we stand and fight. We don't flee the sinking ship. We are altruistic while the immigrants who flee to white countries are selfish.

    No surprise our countries are decent places to live in.

    And no there is no evidence of high iq brahmins.

    The only group accepted by WN are the Japanese because they have high iqs, strong economy and are perfectly content with staying in Japan.

    You Indians are seriously delusional to think that 105 iq China won't curb stomp 81 iq india if war were to break out.

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    1. Indian Americans (a large portion of whom are Brahmins) are superior to whites in academics and in average household income in the US by a long shot. White Americans, especially the younger generation, have SAT scores and GPAs that are on average far lower than that of the Indian Americans. The CEO of Google, Microsoft, Pesico, etc. are all Indian Brahmins, with IQs higher than you will ever have. The lower class peasant whites like you are simply plumbers in the US, while the white elite (which is mostly Jewish now) employs us.
      Whites are selfish as well, your entire history has been running away from Europe and settling in continents all over the world. Why begrudge others doing the same thing, it's a taste of your medicine. India is hardly a sinking ship, the IQ thing is bullshit, China's IQ is not 105 and India's is not 81. Just 25 years ago the average Indian had a better standard of living than the average ch!nk. If war were to break out, it would end in mutual destruction. India's hackers and nuclear weapons are managed by enough 150+ high IQ people. The Chinese are simply mindless drones who don't have the ability to build even nuclear weapons, they needed Russian scientists to design most of their nuclear submarines while we built ours ourselves.

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    2. And you have no idea how averages and proportions work in society. The vast majority of whites do not have an IQ of 100. The vast majority of the Chinese do not have an average IQ of 105. It is just a few outliers at the top of society that raise the average IQ levels.
      It's the opposite in India where the IQ is lowered by the lowest castes, while the Brahmins are in Silicon Valley making more money than a worthless hick like you could ever dream of.

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    3. Whites don't allow us to "stand and fight" because you bombard countries that want to take charge of problems in their own homelands on "human rights" grounds. So destroying white societies is the only way to empower nonwhite societies. Thanks Jews.

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    4. Zero Chinese men have won nobel prizes in the sciences, FIVE Brahmins have. So much for your godly 105 IQ ch!nks that couldn't even produce one nobel prize in the sciences.

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